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December 10, 2010

Does Subprime Still Exist ?

Hi Folks,

   Hope you've had a great week, and that you've been able to keep warm !

   A few days ago, a colleague of mine asked me if subprime loans still exist, and I realized that I have not heard the term, "subprime", for quite a while, and I also realized that before responding to him, I had better gather a consensus from some mortgage professionals with knowledge on this topic. At the same time, I figured that this might be something to share with all of you good folks out there, as well.

   We spoke with a few sources, one of which is Fred Glick, a mortgage broker and banker, who says that, "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac now have minimum credit score standards based on loan to value.", and that the, "new subprime lenders are private ones that charge a lot in rates because they are limited to what they charge in points by many different state and federal laws, including but not limited to what is coming out under the Merkely Amendment of Dodd-Frank", that, "limits compensation to a maximum of 3% of the loan amount and does not allow for both front end points and back end compensation from lender to broker in the same transaction."

   Steven Bote, Mortgage Planner, says that the "very short answer" is, "no, subprime lending does not exist.", and he continues to say that, "for me, the defining characteristic of all subprime loans is the absence of "documented income necessary to support the ability to reasonably repay.". Bote says that today, residential financing is on the "complete opposite extreme of the lending spectrum from where it was three years ago during the height of the subprime era, and as such, everything is fully documented (pay stubs, W2s, tax returns, schedules, etcetera)."

   Any discussion on lending would not be complete without looking at the impact of FHA and VA loans, of which Bote calls, "Government-based loans that allow for higher LTV-based financing, such as FHA and VA". Bote says, that for example, "FHA allows a person to buy an owner-occupied 4-unit property with as little 3.5% down of the purchase price, and VA financing of the same property type allows for 0% down payment (and with as low as a 620 middle FICO)", and says, "To put things into perspective, conventional financing requires all buyers to put down a minimum of 20% of the purchase price." Glick says on a similar note that the, "VA has gotten tougher and FHA claims not to have a minimum, but the GNMA market is moving up to 620 to 640 as a minimum. So, for the people with the scores in the 5's, it's a problem unless you have lots and lots of equity."

   Greg Cook, a Mortgage Professional, agrees that a, "certain segment of the subprime market is being served by FHA financing", and also says that, "Most subprime (hard money) lenders have gotten out of owner occupied loans because federal and state legislation limit the total fees that can be charged. These limitations do not apply to commercial, business or investor loans, so hard money lenders have evolved back to these types, which were their staples before the rise of subprime."

   So, with all of this information in hand, I have duly advised my colleague that the subprime market does still exist (well, kind of), and as Cook said, he has seen, "subprime mortgages start out as hard money, morph into subprime for homeowners, and back to hard money.".

   Do you have anything to add to this discussion? We welcome your comments and insights.

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